Episode 3

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Published on:

15th Jan 2026

Transforming Your Business: The Imperative of Owner's Pay

In this episode, I’m talking about one of the most common — and damaging — habits I see in business: putting your own pay last.

Many business owners believe it’s responsible to delay paying themselves until everything else is covered. But over time, that mindset creates a business that relies on the owner making personal sacrifices just to keep things running. And that’s not sustainable.

I explain why a business that only works when the owner is underpaid is fundamentally broken, no matter how successful it looks from the outside. When owner’s pay is treated as optional, stress builds, decision-making suffers, and the business starts to drain rather than support your life.

Using the Profit First approach, I show how prioritising owner’s pay changes the way a business behaves. When your pay becomes a non-negotiable part of the system, spending becomes more intentional, choices become clearer, and the business is forced to operate within realistic limits.

This episode is about redesigning your business so it supports you — not the other way around.

Takeaways:

  1. Effective business management necessitates prioritizing owner's pay as a fundamental requirement rather than an optional afterthought.
  2. The belief that one can defer personal compensation indefinitely is a detrimental habit for business proprietors.
  3. Implementing the Profit First methodology leads to healthier financial practices and sustainable business growth.
  4. A lack of immediate financial compensation for owners can foster feelings of resentment and exhaustion over time.
  5. By allocating profit and owner's pay first, businesses can cultivate a healthier financial environment for sustained success.
  6. To achieve true financial health, business owners must shift their perspective from later to now regarding their compensation.

Links referenced in this episode:

  1. debhalladay.co.uk

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  1. Accounts Ladies
  2. Accounts Office Training Academy
  3. Profit First
  4. debhalladay.co.uk
Transcript
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Welcome to Profit first with Deb Halliday.

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That's me.

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I'm Deb.

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I'm a Profit first professional and trainer, author of how to Build a Financially Healthy Business, founder of the Accounts Ladies, an award winning accountancy practice and the Accounts Office Training Academy.

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This is the show for business owners who want to stop stressing over money, keep more cash, pay themselves more and build a business that truly thrives.

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Just a quick note.

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Profit first is a licensed methodology.

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Everything here is designed to help you implement it in your own business.

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If you're interested in helping others with Profit First, I'll share how you can apply to become certified too.

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Let's get started.

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Because your business should work for you, not the other way around.

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There's a sentence I hear from business owners more than almost anything else.

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I'll pay myself properly later.

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Not now, not this month, not this year, later.

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And on the surface, it sounds responsible, even noble.

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The business comes first, the team comes first, the clients come first.

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But over time, that belief becomes one of the most damaging financial habits a business owner can have.

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Because I'll pay myself later rarely means later.

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It usually means never.

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What I see again and again is the business grows, revenue increases, workload expands.

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But the owner's pay stays stuck or becomes unpredictable or quietly disappears altogether.

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And eventually resentment creeps in.

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Not always consciously, but it shows up as exhaustion, frustration, a sense that the business is taking more than it gives back.

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Here's the truth.

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If the business only works when you're the last one paid, the business doesn't actually work.

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You're subsidising it.

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Many owners tell me, I can't afford to pay myself yet.

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But that's not quite accurate.

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What they really mean is, I've designed a business that spends everything before it gets to me.

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This is where traditional business logic does real damage.

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Because it teaches us that owner's pay is flexible, optional, something to be sorted once everything else is covered.

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But in reality, owner's pay is not a leftover, it's a requirement.

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You wouldn't expect an employee to work indefinitely without pay.

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And yet, business owners do exactly that to themselves, often for years.

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They normalise it.

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They call it just how business is.

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Here's what changes when you start paying yourself properly.

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You stop making vague decisions.

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You stop saying yes to work that doesn't actually support your life.

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And you start designing a business that has to function within real world constraints.

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This is one of the most important things Profit first addresses, because it doesn't just prioritize profit, it prioritizes owner's pay not as a reward, not as a bonus, but as a non negotiable part of the system.

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When owner's pay is allocated first, the business is forced to adapt.

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Pricing gets questioned, costs get examined, time gets respected and suddenly effort starts to feel worthwhile again.

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Let me be clear.

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Paying yourself properly is not selfish, it's responsible.

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A business that can't support its owner is not sustainable, no matter how good it looks from the outside.

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If you're listening to this and thinking, I just need one more good month before I sort my pay, I'd gently challenge that because there will always be one more expense.

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One more reason to wait, one more justification.

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The real shift happens when you ask what does my business need to look like to support me now, not later.

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That question changes how you build everything else.

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In the next episode, I'll talk about another trap that catches a lot of growing businesses.

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Why revenue growth without profit can actually make things worse, not better.

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Thanks for tuning in to Profit first with me.

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Deb Halliday if you found today's episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review and share it with another business owner who needs to hear this.

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For more resources, courses and to connect with me, head to debhalladay.co.uk and remember, when you put profit first, you build a business that reduces the stress while it supports your goals and dreams.

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See you next time.

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About the Podcast

Profit First with Deb Halliday
Welcome to Profit First with Deb Halliday—the podcast for UK business owners who want to stop stressing over money, keep more cash, pay themselves more, and build a business that truly thrives.
Hosted by Deb Halliday, certified Trainer and Profit First Professional, each episode delivers practical strategies, real stories, and actionable insights to help you implement the Profit First system in your own business. Whether you’re a coach, consultant, freelancer, or small business owner, you’ll discover proven methods to take control of your finances, boost profitability, and create lasting financial health.
Expect expert interviews, success stories, and step-by-step guidance designed for the UK market. Tune in and start building a business that works for you—not the other way round.
For more resources and support, visit debhalliday.co.uk.

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Deb Halliday

Deb Halliday is a qualified trainer, author, and co-founder of APX Training & Development, where she specialises in helping accounting firms build advisory teams that deliver beyond the business owner.

After over 17 years in practice, Deb founded and scaled The Accounts Ladies, an award-winning accountancy, bookkeeping, and financial coaching firm, before successfully stepping away from day-to-day operations in 2025. Her focus now is on helping accountants, bookkeepers, and financial professionals transition from technician-led businesses into scalable, advisory-led firms.

Deb is the co-author of Advisory Teams, written with Tim Seymour, which introduces a new model for delivering advisory through a team, not a single individual. Together, they show how firms can remove the owner as the bottleneck and create consistent, high-value client relationships across the team.

Through APX Training & Development company, Deb provides practical training, structured programmes, and ready-to-use resources that help firms embed advisory into everyday delivery, building capability across their teams, not just at partner level.

With a background in both accountancy and professional training, including earlier experience in a Central London training company, Deb is known for her straightforward, no-nonsense approach. She focuses on making advisory practical, scalable, and achievable for firms at every stage.